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Shootaglock wrote:The club's that have majors have a vested interest in at least attempting to run matches by the rules. Otherwise, if the majority have a good time....... There are a lot of matches that are similar to idpa. Jimmy
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freeidaho wrote:Using an overlay can be quick. What isn't quick is the seemingly never ending discussion of which person is using the overlay exactly right. The quibbling goes on even when it is too close to call. In my experience in IDPA, if it is too close to call, the shooter gets the better score, is much faster. I have never had a target score take almost 15 minutes in IDPA. It isn't all that uncommon with overlays. Your mileage may vary, but overlays are not the panacea some think. In IDPA the very worst case is SO says -3, shooter says I don't believe it and calls for the CSO. The CSO says -3, the shooter says I don't believe it and calls for the MD. Target is pulled and the MD says -3. If the shooter is still not satisfied he can find his $100 and get several more people to look at it. Simple. Quick.
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buzzdraw wrote:freeidaho wrote:Using an overlay can be quick. What isn't quick is the seemingly never ending discussion of which person is using the overlay exactly right. The quibbling goes on even when it is too close to call. In my experience in IDPA, if it is too close to call, the shooter gets the better score, is much faster. I have never had a target score take almost 15 minutes in IDPA. It isn't all that uncommon with overlays. Your mileage may vary, but overlays are not the panacea some think. In IDPA the very worst case is SO says -3, shooter says I don't believe it and calls for the CSO. The CSO says -3, the shooter says I don't believe it and calls for the MD. Target is pulled and the MD says -3. If the shooter is still not satisfied he can find his $100 and get several more people to look at it. Simple. Quick.If overlays didn't work reasonably well then USPSA would not continue to use them. Sounds like your solution is much more time involved than what's involved with simply putting an overlay over the hit in question. Rarely does it take a lengthy time in USPSA to score a target. If IDPA goes to 1 sec per point down the implementation of overlay scoring must occur at the same time.
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If IDPA goes to 1 sec per point down the implementation of overlay scoring must occur at the same time.
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JayKelley wrote:If you can see brown between the grease ring and the perf, no good. If you can't, or can't figure it out, good. What causes most delays, in my opinion, is figuring out where the perf runs under all the pasters. Don't see how overlays help with that. In general, to me, overlays seem to be a solution in search of a problem.
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Tarkeg wrote:buzzdraw wrote:freeidaho wrote:Using an overlay can be quick. What isn't quick is the seemingly never ending discussion of which person is using the overlay exactly right. The quibbling goes on even when it is too close to call. In my experience in IDPA, if it is too close to call, the shooter gets the better score, is much faster. I have never had a target score take almost 15 minutes in IDPA. It isn't all that uncommon with overlays. Your mileage may vary, but overlays are not the panacea some think. In IDPA the very worst case is SO says -3, shooter says I don't believe it and calls for the CSO. The CSO says -3, the shooter says I don't believe it and calls for the MD. Target is pulled and the MD says -3. If the shooter is still not satisfied he can find his $100 and get several more people to look at it. Simple. Quick.If overlays didn't work reasonably well then USPSA would not continue to use them. Sounds like your solution is much more time involved than what's involved with simply putting an overlay over the hit in question. Rarely does it take a lengthy time in USPSA to score a target. If IDPA goes to 1 sec per point down the implementation of overlay scoring must occur at the same time. No, not at all. If the call is that close, the higher score goes to the shooter.
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buzzdraw wrote:For IDPA purposes an overlay could be fabricated with an arc to reestablish the center -0 circle. One would use this if the target had received too many hits or if the scoring perf was not distinct for some reason. Use the second caliber overlay on top; quickly there is a definitive score.
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