Well since Pete got it wrong, and Strick got closer but still got it wrong, let's try and give the guy a correct answer.Laugh

Total time for your examples:

1. 5 points for the miss , 3 for the -3 hit, (8 points total x .5 = 4 seconds) and a FTN (5 seconds) = 9 seconds

2. 10 points down for two misses (10 points x .5 = 5) and a FTN =10 seconds

Man, I hope I got that right.

Toran A27623