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"SAFE TABLE" with the International NO symbol over the word AMMO. "Pretty clear message. NO AMMO."

Mr. Norman,

You are correct, but I don't think how the table was marked was ever disputed. I said I didn't realize it was a "safe table" until after I was dinged for the DQ. When I wrote I think seperating the safe table from the stage and only allowing it to be used as a safe table instead of a countertop, would help.
I was just making a suggestion, regarding the proximity of the "Safe Table" to the stage and where the squads standing by are waiting. As well as what else the "Safe Table" is allowed to be used for. Once shooters start eating lunch on it and leaving numerous other items on top of the table, I think we're getting away from the idea of what the table is actually designated for.

As for the "Pretty clear message" part of your post, that is the only reason I'm responding today. When explaining why you wanted me DQ'd, each of the SO's gave a completely different explanantion and each of the explanations contradicted oneanother. (i.e. If you didn't take rounds out of the box , its not a DQ - If the box is closed , its not a DQ - If your weren't loading mags at the table, its not a DQ - I was told you, It's a two step process, setting rounds on the table and then doing something with them.) Its the various explanations and your broad interpretation of a Club Rule, not an IDPA Rule that I disagreed with. Also the most troubling thing for me, was that a member of my squad was told by the Match Director that if it happened on any other stage I would have gotten a warning and/or a procedural and not been DQ'd. He was told that it was a DQ because of you and your affiliation with the club. Thats a pretty mixed message. If its a DQ with one set of SO's it should be a DQ across the board with all SO's. I've seen nothing stating that what I did was an automatic DQ. Again, I have a great deal more that I'm not including, but I don't think its going to lend its self to a constructive exchange in this forum. The bottom line should be ammo in or around the "Safe Table" is a DQ if thats the rule?. Whether its, shooters with fully loaded mags on their person handling a weapon at the table, Range bags with loaded mags in it on the table or shooters sitting on the table eating lunch with rounds on there person should be a DQ if thats the rule. Which SO is in the bay shouldn't matter. I also don't believe setting a partial box of ammo with 10 Rounds in it on the edge of the "Safe Table" is in the same league of infractions as breaking the 180 with a loaded weapon, an AD or dropping your loaded weapon on the ground. I did it, you got me, I can ensure you that I have grown emeasurably from the experience and hope that it never happens again. I think each of the SO's involved knows exactly what I'm talking about. Mr. Norman, thanks again for being an SO at the match and volunteering your time. Without all the help from the SO's, these matches wouldn't be able to take place. I really do appreciate the efforts of all the SO's at the match, Thanks. Jimbob Meyers

"Jim with the finger pointing and professing how you have been wronged, I can't believe it's you writing. We all get that you are a victim, and as you say, "we wanted to DQ you".

Steve,

Get off the high horse. I never claimed to be victimized here and you haven't even begun to see finger pointing from me yet. I simply disagreed with the call. These last few posts are the only ones I've ever put on this board or any other forum for that matter. And I didn't say BOO until one of you guys brought it up here. So once the topics on the forum its fair game right. I think the whole thing is absolutely rediculous that its gotten to this point. I've been shooting IDPA for a year now and obviously unlike yourself I don't know everything. In fact I didn't know if what I was DQ'd for was a good call or not. And after asking the right people, I was told it was a weak call to say the least. I think what I've posted so far has been fair and balanced, kind of like Bill O'reilly if you will. What ... You ... Guys... Explained... To... Me... Was... Confusing... It didn't make any sense to me. Here is exactly what was explained to me today in an email I received regarding the decision, the email is from you guys:

DQ being essentially a "Two-Step" process.

A range bag with loose ammo is OK, Reach in and handle the ammo and No Good
Take a CLOSED Box out and place it on the table. OK, No different than a range bag, OPEN the box and no good
Actually load a mag at the table, No good.

What is meant by a two-step process is that the ammo is two steps away from the chamber. Loaded rounds in hand go directly into the gun. loaded mags or speed loaders go directly into the gun.

CLOSED boxes of ammo or Ammo contained in a range bag are TWO steps away from going into the gun and the shooter has a chance to NOT go any further. One step is just too close.

News Flash, its still freaking confusing. I apologize for having the audacity to question the call. Surely with all the freedoms we each enjoy being slowly more regulated with each passing day, I can still be afforded the opportunity to disagree with an official Co. Match Director when I see fit. I truly believe in what I've said on this board. I never took a cheap shot at you, in fact I thanked each of you and recognized the awkward position I put you in. I was able to put myself in your shoes and I recognized why I was DQ'd. I admitted I was wrong, my fault and mine alone. Why is it so hard for you to take a step into my shoes and recognize my perspective and how confusing your mixed explanations were. After talking to each of you Steve, it was really confusing. It wasn't as streamlined and as simplified as you spelled it out here. Steve, I don't bother anyone at the matches I go to, I get a few laughs here and there and usually thoroughly enoy my time at the range. This wasn't one of those times for me. A lot of times its not the decision, its the way its delivered to the person.

Now as you make your way back up to the top of mount perfection, I'm heading over to the "Victims" shelter with my box of Kleenex and my pointy finger, it closes at 10PM. Thanks for setting me straight, your post says alot about you.

And by the way, I would imagine that Mrs. Lincoln thought the show sucked.

Jimbob Meyers