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        <![CDATA[ In early Fall we&#39;ll statr having indoor, low light events at our Club and I&#39;ll need to buy some type of a light.

Lights must be hand held, those attached to the Gun are not permitted .... all I have is a &quot;Mini-MagLite&quot; that does not put out much light.

Would like to buy something ahead of time so I can get in some practice and develop a &quot;grip&quot; that works for me.

Your suggestions and experience please.

Thanks ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Flash Light Suggestions for a Newb  ]]></title>
			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/35115/t/Flash-Light-Suggestions-for-a-Newb.html#reply-35115</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I have to agree with RobMoore on the First Light. Looks good but in our Indoor Clubs regional match with 5 flashlight stages all the winners use regular tube
end cap actuated flashlights, Mostly Surefires.  They allow manipulation of the gun for reloads better. Plus some stages are best shoot one handed with the
flashlight held at neck level.  You want to illuminate the targets but sight using the gun. Often guys will pay attention to aligning the flashlight on target
when it&#39;s not... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Flash Light Suggestions for a Newb  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I used a friend&#39;s First Light in a match once. IMO, it is a transfer device... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:09:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Flash Light Suggestions for a Newb  ]]></title>
			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/35096/t/Flash-Light-Suggestions-for-a-Newb.html#reply-35096</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Yes, I shoot better with a small surefire using the surefire method (hands together, cigar) than I do with the first-light, which by the way isn&#39;t close
enough to a standard two handed grip. The inside handle breaks my weak hand away from the grip of the pistol. I get a better connection with a tube light. Have
you ever used a first-light? They aren&#39;t the same as shooting with no light at all.
<br>
<br>
If your argument about them being a tactical advantage were valid, we&#39;d see... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (RobMoore)</author>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Flash Light Suggestions for a Newb  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ So you&#39;re saying that you shoot better with the traditional flashlight grips than you do with a first light which you can use a traditional two handed
(maybe slightly modified for some models) shooting grip? That&#39;s impressive. Maybe you should consider shooting in those grips all the time then.
<br>
<br>
A gun mounted light is also an improvement... But they aren&#39;t allowed... as are lasers... All of these including the first light are practical, and are an
advancement. What... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ You might be able to shoot better with them, Drew, but I don&#39;t. I do, however, think that people who want to use them should be able to. Its an advancement
for them.
<br>
<br>
Its not a necessary piece of equipment to remain competitive, and THAT is the definition of an equipment race. That horse is pretty tired, from all the use it
gets outside of its purpose.
<br>
<br>
Advancements in technology are to be embraced, not banned as unfair, otherwise lets all ditch our semi-autos and get... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ IMO the first light flashlights while extremely practical, create an equipment race because you can use a standard 2 handed grip with these lights and
shouldn&#39;t be allowed in IDPA.
<br>
<br>
I am hoping that the new rulebook will have some specific rules for low light stages and rule on what types of flashlight are legal. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ When you decide on one - let us know what you got and how it performs.
<br>
<br>
Thanks
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ You can get a Coast Lenser LED at Home Depot for ~ $40. They are cheap and easy to buy and feed with (3) AAA alkaline batteries, very rugged and they work.
They also have a 1&quot; body, so with a low, detachable 1&quot; scope ring, you can stick them on your AR quad rail. Because of the batteries, you will have a
problem with them at temperatures below 0oF.
<br>
<br>
I have one in my pocket, my truck and tacklebox right now - the flashlights, not ARs.
<br>
<br>
More expensive options are... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ We see lots of flashlights at our Indoor IDPA club matches. Probably more Surefires used than anything else For pure IDPA competition I like a plain G2 with
one of Surefires added finger rings.  Bright simple and easy to  hold.  There output is about right for Illuminating targets.; You can change mags by dropping
it then flip back into position fast. Never leaves your hand. Get the incandescent for 35 bucks or go with the LED for trouble free long bulb and battery life.
<br>
<br>
If you look... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I also found that buying the higher priced flashlights didn&#39;t really pay off for my intended use. I bought an Ultrafire off ebay for $20. It uses the
previously mentioned Cree technology with the Q5 LED set. It produces an inmate blinding 270 lumens. I purchased a noname set of 4 CR123 rechargeable batteries
with charger for $16 and a matched Ultrafire case for $8. I abuse it daily at work and it hasn&#39;t let me down yet. I use one with only ON/OFF, but they do
make them with 3 or 5... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">joshua79109 wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  I have been using an inexpensive flashlight made by Coleman - bought at WalMart. I have used and abused mine and it keeps running. It&#39;s $ 25.00.
  <br>
  <br>
  They have different versions - this is the one I like.
  <br>
  <br>

  <div>
    <strong>Coleman Cree XLamp XR-E LED Flashlight, 2 &quot;AA&quot;:</strong>

    <ul>
      <li>115 lumens</li>

      <li>Durable milled aluminum body</li>... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I have been using an inexpensive flashlight made by Coleman - bought at WalMart.  I have used and abused mine and it keeps running.  It&#39;s $ 25.00.
<br>
<br>
They have different versions - this is the one I like.
<br>
<br>

<div>
  <strong>Coleman Cree XLamp XR-E LED Flashlight, 2 &quot;AA&quot;:</strong>

  <ul>
    <li>115 lumens</li>

    <li>Durable milled aluminum body</li>

    <li>Five-hour run time</li>

    <li>Weather-resistant</li>

    <li>Beam distance: 72m</li>... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I saw one on-line called &quot;The Tomahawk&quot; that looked like it might be easier to use and to get used to.
<br>
Any comments on it, or experience with this style of light/
<br>
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.first-light-usa.com/tomahawkmain.php">http://www.first-light-usa.com/tomahawkmain.php</a>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The G2 isn&#39;t that much money compared to the rest.
<br>
<br>
Ken Reed ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ IMO, SureFire makes the best tactical lights, but they are more expensive. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.surefire.com">http://www.surefire.com</a>
<br>
<br>
There are lots of other choices on the market and I&#39;m sure others will have their own opinions... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ In early Fall we&#39;ll statr having indoor, low light events at our Club and I&#39;ll need to buy some type of a light.
<br>
Lights must be hand held, those attached to the Gun are not permitted .... all I have is a &quot;Mini-MagLite&quot; that does not put out much light.
<br>
Would like to buy something ahead of time so I can get in some practice and develop a &quot;grip&quot; that works for me.
<br>
Your suggestions and experience please.
<br>
Thanks ]]></description>

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