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        <title>Holster modification </title>
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        <![CDATA[    I have read the rule book and I don&#39;t see a problem with what I want to do, just thought I would ask anyway.  I have a pancake holster with a thumb
break that even without the snap has excelent retention, I am thinking about trimming the snap off to make it into an open top.  Does anyone see any problems? 
Thanks, Jim. ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Holster modification  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The SLS system is mighty nice. I want to get one for three gun, as I&#39;ve nearly knocked handguns out of the holster with the rifle in that game.
<br>
<br>
The only reason I bought a revolver holster with a retention device is I am partial to the safariland high paddle, and have one for every one of my handguns.
Safariland however, does not make a wheelgun model without the thumb break. So I cut the darn thing off.
<br>
Ted ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ FWIW, I have seen some very good competitors use the Safariland SLS system to little detriment in their times while using their LEO gear.  If you decide to get
another holster, you might want to check them out as they are both effective at level 2/3 retention and can be quick to draw, assuming the shooter does his
part, and reholster.  The model I have is a high ride that keeps the holster close to the body and is designed for concealment and I generally get draw times
well under two seconds... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, I&#39;ll take that under advisement...<img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif" alt="image">
<br>
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Jim Henley
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Holster modification  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Jim,
<br>
<br>
If you like the holster, then just compete with it and use the retention devices. Who gives a damn what onlookers think.
<br>
<br>
I&#39;ll also offer my .02 that you shouldn&#39;t carry the holster in different conditions (rentention devices sometimes used, sometimes not). You can guess
why I&#39;m sure. Do it the same way EVERY time.
<br>
<br>
Koski ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:35:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Holster modification  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">freeidaho wrote:</strong>
  <hr>

  <br>
  Sir Henley,
  <br>
  Another way to look at this is that maybe you learned of a deficiency in your carry gear. If you are unwilling to take the time to deal with the holster
  during competition when nothing is really on the line, are you really going to want to take the extra time in a life saving situation? 
</blockquote>
<br>
Ken, thanks for the response, but I don&#39;t believe there is a deficiency in... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:58:36 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Retention devices on concealment holsters are like seatbelts on a horse.
<br>
<br>
Koski ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:45:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Ken makes a very good point. If its slow in the game, its probably going to be slow in real life.
<br>
<br>
There are many &quot;competition&quot; enhancements or pieces of equipment that are very good for everyday carry. Why would you not want a setup that is fast
to draw, acquire a sight picture with, and shoot with? The faster you can do those things in real life, the better off you will be.
<br>
<br>
Try not to think of everything that makes you a better competitor as &quot;competition... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Koski, thanks for the response.
<br>
<br>
hmmm...&quot;ALL retention features of the holster MUST be used&quot;
<br>
<br>
That must apply to everyone, otherwise there would be nothing else mandating that a holster be snapped. I assume that would mean I have to engage the retention
lock too.
<br>
<br>
I guess I&#39;m going to have to get a competition holster...<img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif" alt="image"> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <br>
Sir Henley,
<br>
Another way to look at this is that maybe you learned of a deficiency in your carry gear. If you are unwilling to take the time to deal with the holster during
competition when nothing is really on the line, are you really going to want to take the extra time in a life saving situation? Maybe the original holster
choice for concealed carry is the problem? Just asking....
<br>
<br>
You wouldn&#39;t be the first guy that changed his carry gear based on learnings from a gun... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Doc,
<br>
<br>
Good question. I know that the rule is commonly applied as it was in your case, that if a retention device is present, it must be used, even for non-LEO&#39;s.
But the rule book doesn&#39;t say that (that I can find). It looks like Robert Ray at IDPA headquarters did make a clarification, as discussed here:
<br>
<br>
http://idpaforum.yuku.com/topic/4115
<br>
<br>
Page 35 says:
<br>
<br>
&quot;L. Any type of filler to hide an offset.
<br>
<br>
Exception - Police or military... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:02:53 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I am new to IDPA, and shot my first match yesterday. I chose IDPA because I thought it was designed to allow competition with the equipment you actually carry
as opposed to IPSC where it has become an equipment race.
<br>
<br>
Can someone point me to the place in the rule book that requires a holster be snapped? I have read and re-read the rule book and I can&#39;t find it. If there
is a retention lock in addition to the snap, does it have to be engaged?
<br>
<br>
I was told to snap my... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I left the part on mine, and it did cause a minor stir at a recent major match. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ It isn&#39;t necessary to remove the male part but if it is a leather holster and you have cut off the one part you might as well cut off the other just to
avoid situations with SO as you described.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:46:40 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I think your SO is up in the night.
<br>
<br>
Koski ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:47:25 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ did you guys take the male part of the retainer off of the holster also??? a SO this weekend told a shooter,the male part had to be removed also..just
wondering..
<br>
Gerg ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:40:06 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I did on mine.
<br>
<br>
Ted ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (j ted murphy)</author>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:41:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Yep, you can do that. Cut it off!
<br>
<br>
Koski ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:52:31 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I have read the rule book and I don&#39;t see a problem with what I want to do, just thought I would ask anyway.  I have a pancake holster with a thumb
break that even without the snap has excelent retention, I am thinking about trimming the snap off to make it into an open top.  Does anyone see any problems? 
Thanks, Jim. ]]></description>

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