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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/35138/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-35138</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I think this has been beat to death. Good time to move on to another subject. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:07:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/35123/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-35123</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Belay my last. I dont want to argue, I just dont care what you have to say.
<br>
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:14:53 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/35122/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-35122</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ &quot;At the end one guy does a Charlie&#39;s Angels pose with his gun next to his face and turns back and forth&quot;
<br>
<br>
Yeah, that would be scanning for more threats, you know, like anywhere they might be, I dunno like maybe behind you. I know they might just be thugs and
haven&#39;t figured out that a sucker punch wins every time, but maybe, just maybe they saw a movie where it worked.
<br>
<br>
The pointing up,  well, if your kids are with you, you may not want to point down.... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:12:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/35000/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-35000</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Old business plan for second raters. If you&#39;re offering the same thing as everyone else, and you&#39;re not the best at it, convince everyone that
you&#39;re somehow different. Invent a new process/technique/ect and a invent a reason everyone should come to you to learn it/ buy it. There are enough people
out there easily separated from their money that will patronize you. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:00:34 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/34995/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-34995</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ yeah...nothing better than mocking safety!!! hey kids its fine to look down the barrel of a gun....if &quot;unload and show clear&quot; is being treated like a
child, then get me my pacifier! im sure those unloaded guns hurt like hell when they blow a hole in you. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:54:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ He is running adverts in magazines now that mock the issue.
<br>
&quot;Are you tired of being treated like a child?&quot;
<br>
<br>
Why am I waiting for a punch line like: How my beer and watch this! (?) ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:29:40 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ maybe they know something i dont, but if i am ever looking down THAT end of a gun, i hope its not a videocamera that i have in my hand. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:42:16 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Hi, there, fellas,
<br>
<br>
Saw where folks are having problems seeing the video. Got a lot of chatter on the Indiana forum (believe it or not, some were passionately defending it).
<br>
<br>
Thought I&#39;d share with you a link to that thread where you can actually still see the video and the rebuttal video. Absolutely stunned me completely.
<br>
<br>
http://ingunowners.com/forums/tactics_and_training/40067-the_pink_elephant_t_r_video.html
<br>
<br>
Enjoy the read.
<br>
<br>
Leigh Ann J ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:46:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ YO! Now I understand all the traffic about this. Thanks for the info. I was assuming that it was NOT a IDPA match and am not surprised to find out that it
wasn&#39;t. But if somebody DID put a round through the cameraman, would it have been just a 5 second penalty for hit on a non-threat?!? Which segues very
nicely into the thread I&#39;m about to post.....<img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif" alt="image">
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:41:42 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ That&#39;s good, because mere cameramen aren&#39;t bullet proof. Glad it was someone tactical. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:57:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ By the way, that wasn&#39;t just a cameraman.  It was Jay Gibson, one of the TR instructors.  He has shown up in at least one of these threads on a related
forum to defend the practice.
<br>
<br>
Colin ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:46:40 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/34798/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-34798</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ A cameraman was placed kneeling between two targets on a line of shooters that was spaced roughly a yard apart, while they all did multiple shots from the
holster. There wasn&#39;t much room for error, and the shooters didn&#39;t look like they were of the &quot;error free&quot; variety. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:27:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/34791/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-34791</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Well, I&#39;m late getting in on these threads both here and on my local IDPA forum. The thread&#39;s been pulled from youTube. Can someone give a brief
description of what I missed and why it&#39;s causing such a furor? I&#39;m getting the idea that it has something to do with someone being downrange while
another someone shoots in their direction. Yes?  And this was in a &quot;training class&quot; and not at an IDPA match? Thanks.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:43:25 GMT</pubDate>
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			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/34759/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-34759</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ You can train &quot;for the real thing&quot; without creating unsafe situations, and don&#39;t let any mall ninja wanna-be who has never done anything more
noteworthy than getting people to buy his DVDs tell you otherwise. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:47:49 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Diesel doc wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  They sure dont practice a 180 rule.
</blockquote>I don&#39;t attend any defensive firearms training that has a cold range rule and a &quot;180&quot; rule.  Both are fine for games such as IDPA
but not for training for the real thing.
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:39:27 GMT</pubDate>
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			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/34744/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-34744</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Yeager is obviously a logician of the highest order. By his logic, the closer we place someone to harm, the safer we make people. Instead of using a 180° rule,
we should use a 30° rule, or perhaps a 5° rule, or a 0.5° rule, allowing people to stand infinitely close to bullet impact point.
<br>
<br>
Wrong answer dude.
<br>
<br>
Greater risk is greater risk. Sometimes greater risk is warranted, sometimes it is not. It is a judgement call. Placing a camera man out in front of a long
line of... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:29:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Watched that video and saw a variation of the Agent in a class full of kids.
<br>
<br>
Well, this is one Internet Commando that will never give this guy the time of day.
<br>
<br>
There are so many better options. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:30:59 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ He promotes firing guns near live people during training, so you&#39;ll be able/willing to do it in the real world. <strong><br>
<br>
&quot;Putting people in front of the firing line makes people safer.&quot;</strong>
<br>
<br>
Koski ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:56:21 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Unbelievable  ]]></title>
			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/34737/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-34737</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Yeager&#39;s response.......
<br>
<br>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R3t0wuLDWQ
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Massimo ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:48:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<link>http://idpaforum.yuku.com/reply/34700/t/Unbelievable.html#reply-34700</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Off to a good start, Jay. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:17:39 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Unbelievable  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <a target="_blank" href="http://s717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Tactical_Resp/?action=view&amp;current=MVI_1778.flv">http://s717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Tactical_Resp/?action=view&amp;current=MVI_1778.flv</a>
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Ken Reed ]]></description>

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